Long Run: Noped out at 15 miles
Sep. 10th, 2018 06:28 pmThis week was supposed to be 19. Last week, also 19, I also noped out at 15.
It's possible that I'm hitting some sort of over-training plateau. (Both of us--
cinnabarine is having similar experiences). Or it's just that I currently suck at hills.
cinnabarine noted that there are two small hills on the route of the marathon we're training for, and maybe we should train specifically for those. But it's a little difficult to tell from the elevation profile map exactly what they look like. Taking the most conservative estimate-- i.e. training to face the worst interpretation we can put on the data-- we guessed them at 3% grade for a mile, and 10% grade for a quarter mile.
3% grade for a mile isn't too bad. 10% grade for a quarter mile... is.
So anyway last week I tried to add that in to my regular long run. It was hard, but I did it. But it did a number on my legs. Aerobically, I was fine. Weirdly, at least for the first half-marathon distance or so, 5.3mph seems to now be (probably the upper edge of) a rest pace for me-- I could feel my body recovering, running at that pace on a level-ground setting on the treadmill after the hills. But it didn't recover enough, and by the time I started my last set it seemed to be getting worse. My legs hurt, a lot, in ways they don't usually from this running. So I stopped at 15 miles. And didn't feel particularly winded. But my legs took a couple days to feel okay.
This time I ran with
cinnabarine and we didn't do the full second hill-- we only did 0.14 miles of it-- and my legs didn't hurt right away, but midway through the third set they started hurting, like the hill had taken something out of them they couldn't recover from.
So, we definitely need to do some serious hill training. But I'm thinking also... our existing plan was for an extremely unusual long training period for this second marathon. We actually have time to stop entirely and do an entirely new (abbreviated) training cycle before late November.
I think this might actually be a good idea. Give our legs a chance to recover for reals, then come at them with some serious hill work.
It's possible that I'm hitting some sort of over-training plateau. (Both of us--
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3% grade for a mile isn't too bad. 10% grade for a quarter mile... is.
So anyway last week I tried to add that in to my regular long run. It was hard, but I did it. But it did a number on my legs. Aerobically, I was fine. Weirdly, at least for the first half-marathon distance or so, 5.3mph seems to now be (probably the upper edge of) a rest pace for me-- I could feel my body recovering, running at that pace on a level-ground setting on the treadmill after the hills. But it didn't recover enough, and by the time I started my last set it seemed to be getting worse. My legs hurt, a lot, in ways they don't usually from this running. So I stopped at 15 miles. And didn't feel particularly winded. But my legs took a couple days to feel okay.
This time I ran with
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So, we definitely need to do some serious hill training. But I'm thinking also... our existing plan was for an extremely unusual long training period for this second marathon. We actually have time to stop entirely and do an entirely new (abbreviated) training cycle before late November.
I think this might actually be a good idea. Give our legs a chance to recover for reals, then come at them with some serious hill work.